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Joe Budden Responds to Eminem Diss

September 5, 2018

By Eyasu Delesa

Joe Budden finally addressed his longstanding, awkward relationship with Eminem in the newest episode of the Joe Budden Podcast.

Eminem dissed Budden on "Fall," a track on his newly released "Kamikaze" album.

"Somebody tell Budden before I snap/He better fasten it/Or have his body bag get zipped/The closet thing he's had to hits/Since smacking bitches," Shady rapped.

Budden, who recently acknowledged that he's still (somehow) signed to Shady's Slaughterhouse records, didn't take long to address the diss.

"I'm so glad this day has finally arrived," Budden started. "Man this has been building up for a long time." 

Things really heated up after that. Read the thick of the podcast conversation below:

The podcast host started by playing a snippet from "SlaughterMouse," a record he dropped in 2015. 

Budden: That record was originally a diss record Marshall. In classic Joe Budden diss record fashion, I was starting with love. The therapist always says 'you have to start with love.' The therapist also says 'you have to go to the very beginning.'

The Jersey City rapper then took "full responsibility for the demise of Slaughterhouse." He looped back to the "Slaughtermouse" record to explain.

Budden: This record was a diss record right. I had to be talked off of the ledge. That woulda looked ugly. You know how nasty that would have looked back then? To come out and diss your boss that you're signed to. To come out just being honest.

Rory: Though if I were to a pick a rapper that would do it, it'd be Joe Budden.

The group then talks about the dangers of going after such a popular rapper, even though Budden did just that with Drake. Budden didn't hesitate to clarify the difference being he and Drake are much closer than he and Em.

Budden: I take full responsibility for the demise of the group because my perception of Em was just very different. It's always been just very different. And their perception of me was always very different. Y'all already know how Joe give it up, I'm not major label dude. So let's be clear, when you sign to Shady Records you sign there with hope. You sign there thinking some things are going to occur that may not be written in a contract. The contract is never going to say 'Hey. the biggest rap star in the world will do A, B, and C to  help your likeness and your visibility, and your brand.' So that's the hope you going into these things with. 

Budden: Very early in the process, I started to see some things that were just very telling, very early on. The answer that I got every time I sniffed around, the same way I sniffed around at Complex, the same way I started sniffing around at Def know what everybody said? 'He's a megastar, he can't do that.' 

The Jersey City native says he was told Eminem was 'too big' to go on tour, bringing up touring Rick Ross and MMG as a direct comparison. 

Rory: You also have to remember though. Em ain't the business guy though, like the way Rick Ross and Hov are. They always put business first. So you're dealing with a creative, not really a businessman in how he's going to leverage Slaughterhouse with his power.

Budden: You're right. But you have to learn that sometimes. 

The podcast host then clarifies that on top of not touring, the group also couldn't get an Eminem verse. The group's music would often change once it was sent off to Slaughterhouse executives, Budden also points out. 

Budden: If that wasn't bad enough that you couldn't hold your own music, every time we had to go do five or six more songs, it was always mad Eminem beats. They were horrible! They were horrible fu*king beats!

If the group did want an Eminem verse, one of the four group members wouldn't make the cut, Budden clarified. 

Budden: When the verses came back, it was normally Joe's verse cut. That gave a lot of information to Joe.

Rory: Why do you think that is?

Budden: What it said to Joe was, 'You (Em) don't know shit about the group.' You don't know shit about the three ni**as in the group. Or if you did, you would never be able to make sense of taking Joe off of our emo intro that Joe had to fight for to even be there in the first place. Y'ALL cut that record. Joe got a real problem with other ni**as being able to determine what goes and doesn't go in Joe's f**ing idea. You know what Joe is gonna do every time you try and contaminate his idea? Exit stage left.  

So there we have it. The retired rapper left Slaughterhouse for a bunch of reasons. After making that clear, Budden let the world know he wants all the smoke.

"I've been better than you this entire f**ing decade," Budden starts. "You have not said anything for the better part of a whole f**ing decade. You have rhymed a bunch of words."

In his rant he also says Eminem is threatened by people in the game and throws names out in his raps for the hope of recognition. He also says there's three rappers on his own label that are better than him.

"Let me tell you something, you don't get to come out and call the shots....number one as the lesser MC...number two as you're not backed anymore," Budden continues. 

Budden says don't expect a response since he's retired and had to find another way to make money since Em wasn't paying him. 


Your move, Em.

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